Basierend auf 354 Bewertungen gefunden auf 2 Websites
Basierend auf 354 Bewertungen gefunden auf 2 Websites
Nº 3 unter 5 unter Giornico
Nº 3 von 4 Végétarien unter Giornico
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A room alone. No cupboards and desk in the room. No prices for food and drinks, which turned out to be pricey. Train next to the location.
Theo Xionis . 2024-03-17
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A place hidden between two branches of the Ticino river. A very pleasant patio to sit on sunny days. Very good food and service.
esteve roig campama . 2023-09-29
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We had a pleasant outdoor lunch, I also found vegan and vegetarian alternatives. The staff also spoke Italian and all in all I would go back, prices a little high for us Italians but super generous portions!
Angie . 2023-09-25
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Really quiet and beautiful grotto. Food was really good!
Jürg Zgraggen . 2023-09-15
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Stumbled over this little restaurant on our way to Milano. I thought my girlfriend was unable to read the map when she led us off the highway through small towns. Unexpectedly we had the best food of our whole vacation here by far. We'll definitely come back when we have to go through the Gotthard tunnel ever again :)
Florian Wrensch . 2023-09-14
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Beautiful place, excellent value for money and quantity of portions! Very nice! Advised!
Angy B . 2023-09-06
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Fantastic location, very friendly and courteous staff, excellent food and above all very reasonable price!
claudio schneeby . 2023-09-06
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Incredible! Couldn’t recommend it enough! All 6 of us had a perfect dining experience. It’s slow but that’s part of the culture and experience! Don’t miss it!
Maybird Construction . 2023-08-31
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Small restaurant in a small village on the water's edge surrounded by mountains, ideal restaurant for a gourmet break after passing the Gotthard tunnel, with delicious desserts. Very nice welcome too
Pierre Tailleur . 2023-07-22
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The food was absolutely top class, especially the dessert (never been so fine). The service is warm, friendly and competent. An experience ❤️ Thank you very much and see you soon
Giuseppe Orsillo . 2023-07-21
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Everything just worked out great for us. The food is fresh and super tasty. Starter, main course and dessert all to our complete satisfaction. We will visit the grotto again and can highly recommend it. It is located on a river island and there are parking spaces just above at the church or at the train station, a few minutes walk.
daniel ott . 2023-07-12
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Hello, we had a brief stay, because we were late when the kitchen closed, and despite that we were very well received! Great place, service and food! Grazie mille 🤩
Goreti Savoy . 2023-07-02
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We showed up without a reservation. They seated us and then ignored us for half an hour. If you can serve a guest simple say no. We left before they served us water.
Jake Rohn . 2023-07-01
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The terrace covered with foliage is very pleasant in summer, and the food is very good!
Célien . 2023-07-01
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Small country inn where you eat under the arbor on granite tables overlooking one of the two branches of the Ticino river which form an island joined to the banks by two Romanesque bridges. Magnificent village. The food is very nice and at good prices. We tasted the very pleasant local wine. I wrote it down in my address book so I can stop there on my next trip!
Pierre Humblet . 2023-06-25
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I've always eaten well here, they never make mistakes
Antichità & Restauro . 2023-06-03
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Beautiful setting next to the bridge and river with a lovely terrace. Very good local family cuisine. Very pleasant and friendly service.
Sandra BG . 2023-05-21
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Excellent quality of food served in a particular environment, the minus star caused by the exaggerated slowness of the service...
Athos Giusti . 2023-05-05
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Great little grotto, beautifully located. Very nice service and super fine cuisine.
Rita Bochsler . 2022-10-14
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Exceptional pumpkin soup, excellent prices and super quality, recommended
ludivine leone . 2022-09-11
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Great atmosphere, excellent food and very friendly service!
Theo Gerber . 2022-09-06
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On the journey to Grosswangen we stopped in Giornico, a very pleasant village. At the Grotto we found a good and friendly welcome from the ladies and a young girl on the staff. Very good food, Gotthard beer ditto. Very good prices considering the Swiss average, the quality and the location. Advised!
Johnny Gobbi . 2022-08-13
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Excellent location and delicious food
Luisa Besomi . 2022-08-02
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On the way home we stopped at this great grotti. Great ambience, very good food and great service. We will definitely come back.
Isabelle Berli . 2022-07-03
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Slightly spicy chicken with vegetables and sauce 😊🥰
Plüsh Jelmini . 2022-06-25
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Lovely place... delicious cuisine... hospitality and courtesy from all the staff... see you soon and thank you for everything...
MariaElena Scalise . 2022-06-19
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Grotto in a fantastic location, on the edge of the river makes it magical. The cuisine is divine and very well presented.
Gianluigi Cadra . 2022-05-30
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Came across this grotto almost by chance😉. The ambience and food were top👍! Very welcome again at any time...
Andy Binkert . 2022-05-30
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I went to this grotto for the first time with my husband. For dinner there were two gastronomic menus: one vegetarian and the other with fish or meat of your choice. Very good, adequate quantities and impeccable service. To return!
Mariella Schwarzenbach . 2022-05-27
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Small restaurant with nice outdoor seating and excellent Cucina Casalinga.
Peter M. Kempf . 2022-05-26
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Wonderful restaurant in a very nice location. Fantastic food in the culinary month of May and also a great vegetarian menu. We recommend.
Tara Meier . 2022-05-19
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Always at the top, congratulations
Andrea Bonini (The Bonny) . 2022-05-17
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The grotto is located on a small island in the middle of the Ticino river reachable by two Roman bridges. Chef Arturo's dishes are always delicious... today super lasagne! I couldn't give up my favorite dessert... the amaretto semifreddo. Excellent service from Mrs. Edana!
Antonio Senno . 2022-04-18
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Had a very good lunch in a fairytale location. Courtesy, speed of service accompanied by a smile and a few chats. Very, very good food and generous portions. And all at a very fair price. Well done!!
Boris Mariotta . 2021-10-14
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Excellent food, excellent service. Place a little tight. I recommend dressing well. The veranda is a bit cool.
Virna . 2021-10-08
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Fantastic. Great food, good price, wonderful setting, friendly service.
James Smith . 2021-09-19
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Nicely located, food and service with room for improvement.
Roger K . 2021-09-15
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Great Grotto, magnificent meal. Advised.
Véronique Blondel . 2021-09-10
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Beautiful place. Delicious meal.
Laura Staub . 2021-09-10
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Lovely place for a delicious dinner!!
Don Guajiro . 2021-09-02
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Beautiful place, fine food, good service
Ruth Decimo . 2021-08-27
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From the 2021 season the management has finally changed. The attentive and caring staff as well as the combination with the quality of the raw materials and the cooking and pastry chefs make it a destination not to be missed.
Paul Bello . 2021-08-26
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Everything from the location to the good food to the friendliness is spectacular, as well as Giornico which offers excellent views... Highly recommended
Moreno Zago . 2021-08-20
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Good food, very nice location in a charming village
claralaura ricci . 2021-08-16
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Excellent Grotto eaten very well.
Roberto Huser . 2021-08-15
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Always pleasant to spend an evening here!
Samuel Roberti . 2021-07-25
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Marvelous location and good food. Unfortunately very bad and slow service
Silvia Lama . 2021-07-20
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Enchanting location, excellent cuisine and a very friendly new manager.
Marco Di Ascenzo . 2021-07-16
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Good food and friendly service.
Beatus Wolgensinger . 2021-07-15
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Excellent service and excellent quality. Go on like this!!
Alan Corti . 2021-07-02
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Very friendly service, uniquely romantic atmosphere right on the river. Nice selection of menus and also for very reasonable prices. A visit is always worthwhile.
Markus Schnyder . 2021-06-29
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Magnificent typical place. Very von meal with homemade products. Good quality/price ratio
Cosette Overney . 2021-06-17
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Excellent and unique cuisine. Pleasant surprise topped off with attentive service. To keep in mind .
Silio Bertini . 2021-06-16
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Lovely place, excellent cuisine.
Monica Delmenico . 2021-06-13
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Edana spoiled us and Arturo as always delighted us with his cuisine
Cinzia . 2021-06-13
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Gnocchi with gorgonzola - mmm - mouth wateringly delicious. Friendly, efficient staff. Look forward to next time. 😋👏
EC BM . 2021-06-06
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Very friendly service. Although a little stressed during rush hour. Delicious dishes in an idyllic setting. Save room for a good homemade dessert. They are worth the detour!
Marie-Laure Jenny (Cochand) . 2021-06-04
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Very fine food, very friendly staff. Location very idyllic and inviting.
Tobias Kuchen . 2021-06-03
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Excellent aperitif, lunch, one of a kind place, very kind staff, honest prices👍what can I say, come back as soon as possible 🤗🌻
Cristina Bianchi . 2021-06-03
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Very nice restaurant, super fine food, very nicely located.
Pascal Morgenthaler . 2021-05-07
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Sehr fein frisch gekocht das Fleisch war auf den Punkt gegart alles sehr fein. Service sehr nett! Wunderschön gelegen oben an der Hauptstrasse parkieren von Vorteil!
777777_13 . 2021-05-05
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Très beau cadre, nous avons mangé la chasse que nous recommandons vivement ! En dessert un tiramisu aux châtaignes très bon également
c1125u . 2020-10-15
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Really very good roe deer saddle. Friendly staff. The place is very subjective and nice
Davide Gil . 2020-10-13
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Très beau restaurant avec vue incroyable ! Très romantique
Co M . 2020-10-04
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(Traducido por Google) Espectacular (Original) Spettacolare
Romina Passaretti . 2020-10-04
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(Traducido por Google) Amable, cálida bienvenida, comidas buenas y frescas. Muy acogedor bajo la pérgola de vid ... gracias por estar allí (Original) Freundich, Herzlicher Empfang, gutes und frische Mahlzeiten. Sehr gemütlich unter der Reben Pergola... danke dass es Euch gibt
Edi Stu . 2020-09-17
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Spazierten zufällig am Mittag vorbei, leider war aber alles reserviert oder besetzt. Auf Abend Tisch reserviert. Zackige Bedienung und leckeres Essen. Cordonbleu recht gross, auch das Tagliata di Fileto di Cervo con Funghi war hervorragend. Der lokale Weisswein schmeckte uns auch ausgezeichnet. Sehr empfehlenswert, Tischreservation unerlässlich.
Yoda-Switzerland . 2020-09-13
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(Traducido por Google) Muy bien (Original) Buonissimo
Priska Decimo . 2020-09-05
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(Traducido por Google) Gruta super bien ubicada, buen servicio, comida deliciosa. ¡Solo puedo recomendarlo! (Original) Super schön gelegenes Grotto, nette Bedienung, leckere Speisen. Nur zu empfehlen!
Bruno Fiechter . 2020-08-29
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Luogo molto caratteristico, situato sull'isola in mezzo al fiume Ticino a Giornico.Molto carina la breve passeggiata dal parcheggio al grotto.Accoglienza molto cordiale.Il filetto di Toro molto molto buono, anche il Roastbeef ed il vitello tonnato sono stati eccellenti. Il vino rosso si è sposato molto bene con le pietanze.Il tiramisù è stato anch'esso molto buono, un po' meno la panna cotta con la panna montata.
valentinat40 . 2020-08-09
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(Traducido por Google) Muy buena comida, pequeño menú auténtico. Excelente ubicación, ambiente y vista. Servicio amigable. ¡Un verdadero consejo! (Original) Sehr gutes Essen, kleine authentische Karte. Super Lage, Ambiance und Aussicht. Freundliche Bedienung. Ein echter Geheimtipp!
Marcel Feutl . 2020-08-05
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(Traducido por Google) no excelente comida y precios realmente exagerados (Original) cibo non eccellente e prezzi VERAMENTE esagerati
Martino Salvioni . 2020-07-20
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Zum ersten Mal assen wir ein filetto di toro (nicht di manzo!) - es war hervorragend - auch die Beilagen
Isabelle W . 2020-07-13
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Avons mangés à midi dans ce Grotto typique sous la tonnelle. Restaurant en contrebas près de la rivière sur un îlot et entre deux vieux ponts de pierre.Excellente restauration avec des plats typiques du Tessin.Excellent merlot, le tout à un prix abordable.
Jacques Y . 2020-07-10
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Staff molto gentile, prezzi in linea e location stupenda. Consiglio di cenare di fuori sotto le incantevoli pergole al fianco del fiume e attorniato dai ponti medioevali di grande valore storico.
GigiTim . 2020-06-24
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(Traducido por Google) Que lindo y bueno! (Original) Que bello & buono!
Manuel Dudler . 2020-06-14
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(Traducido por Google) Excelente osteria, excelente hospitalidad y amabilidad y platos de 'comida lenta'. Además, la ubicación es hermosa. (Original) Ottima osteria, ottima accoglienza e gentilezza e piatti da 'osteria slow food'! In più la location è bellissima.
Nicoletta Castellino . 2020-06-06
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Excellent service, accueil sympathique Le cadre hydillique. Nourriture très bonne et typique..le vin est bon et les prix très correct..c est sûr on reviendra et on peux vous recommander ce charmand grotto
N4686RLsoniac . 2020-05-29
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(Traducido por Google) Bonita gruta en una posición sugerente, excelentes platos típicos de Ticino. (Original) Bel grotto in posizione suggestiva, ottimi piatti tipici ticinesi.
Josh Antorini . 2020-03-03
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(Traducido por Google) La silla de venado que comí aquí casi no tiene igual ... Esperaba mucho, mucho más y después de ver al cocinero entendí todo. El restaurante fue una vez famoso, pero ahora me parece que ha perdido todo el encanto que el puesto le dio a este establecimiento público. (Original) La sella di capriolo dozzinale che ho mangiato qui non ha quasi uguali... mi aspettavo molto ma molto di più e dopo aver visto il cuoco ho capito tutto. Il locale era un tempo rinomato, ma ora mi sembra aver perso tutto lo charme che la posizione dava a questo esercizio pubblico.
Luca Guidicelli . 2020-01-12
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(Traducido por Google) El restaurante de ensueño de la región rural del Tesino de Suiza. El vino y todos los artículos del menú son excepcionales. Tres de nosotros salimos muy felices y llenos de energía. (Original) The dream restaurant of rural Ticino region of Switzerland. Wine and all menu items are outstanding. Three of us came away very happy and energized.
Francis Tiso . 2019-12-28
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(Traducido por Google) Romántica. Único. Pequeño pero muy hermoso, en una isla en el río Ticino. (Original) Romantico. Unico. Piccolo ma molto bello, su un 'isola nel fiume Ticino.
Maria Rosa Alieri . 2019-11-06
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Estuve aquí hace más de 5 años y probablemente la gerancia cambió. Comí montura de corzo pero no había amor en el plato. Nada especial. ¡Pueden hacerlo mucho mejor que esto! De todos modos fabulosa ubicación
Luca_Guidicelli . 2019-10-18
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(Traducido por Google) Super ambiente buena comida, muy recomendable (Original) Super Ambiente feines Essen,sehr empfehlenswert
Alessio .Malagnino . 2019-10-14
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Spontan auf der durchreise. Gefunden dank google auf einer insel zw 2 brücken. Sehr gutes tessiner essen, flinker service. Preis leistung passt.
taggeist . 2019-09-30
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Abbiamo cenato presso questo ristorante e devo dire che il posto vale veramente la visita. Situato in riva ad un fiume si è immersi nel verde. Il ristorante ha dei tavoli esterni dove, l'estate risulta sicuramente molto fresco. Noi abbiamo cenato all'interno della veranda con vista sul fiume. Abbiamo mangiato la sella di capriolo ed era molto buona. Abbiamo scelto la formula delle due portate ma, per chi mangia poco, è possibile scegliere anche solo una portata. Buoni i contorni offerti. L'unico appunto può essere il fatto di servire la sella già impiattata. Generalmente viene tagliata la carne al tavolo e aggiunti i vari contorni, però questa è solo una mia preferenza.
Anna D . 2019-09-19
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(Traducido por Google) Pequeño restaurante muy típico y amable con un menú diario razonable y un personal acogedor. (Original) Petit resto très typique et sympa avec un menu du jour raisonnable et un personnel accueillant
Alexandre P . 2019-09-07
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(Traducido por Google) Acogedora ubicación pintoresca. Deliciosa comida casera. Panne Cotta es un deber! (Original) Cozy quaint location. Delicious homemade food. Panne Cotta is a must!
Laura Kelley . 2019-08-12
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Wie man sich ein tessiner Grotto vorstellt. Innenplätze sind sehr beschränkt. Reservation sehr empfehlenswert. Draussen aber viele sehr schöne Sitzplätze unter schöner Pergola. Sehr gute einheimische Küche und sehr faire Preise.
Sandro S . 2019-08-10
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(Traducido por Google) Excelente cocina en un lugar histórico, precios adecuados. (Original) Ottima cucina in un luogo storico, prezzi adeguati
mr680 . 2019-08-06
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(Traducido por Google) Muy acogedor, servicio en la parte superior !! Comemos en la terraza junto al río, la cocina tradicional de Ticino realmente es excelente, es un lugar para buscar, pero vale la pena una visita. (Original) Cadre très accueillant, service au top!! Nous avons manger sur la terrasse au bord de la rivière, la cuisine traditionnelle tessinoise vraiment au top, c est un endroit où il faut chercher pour trouver mais ça vaut vraiment le détour
Alexandre Oggier . 2019-08-04
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Top Mittagessen zu sehr fairen Preisen! Esspresso für 2.20, wo gibts den sowas noch? Unter der Pergola angenehm kühl!
elfege79 . 2019-07-17
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(Traducido por Google) Como siempre muy buena comida, agradable y bonito jardín. (Original) Wie immer sehr feines Essen, freundlich und schöner Garten
Yvonne Pelli . 2019-07-13
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(Traducido por Google) Agradable, típica gruta. Buena opción para viajar al norte de Ticino. (Original) Nice, typical grotto. Good option when travelling north from Ticino.
Pascal Solèr . 2019-07-09
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(Traducido por Google) Gruta muy bonita con excelente cocina. (Original) sehr schönes grotto mit ausgezeichneter küche
Edgar Wildi . 2019-07-04
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(Traducido por Google) Muy buena comida y servicio muy amable. Los precios se encuentran en el segmento superior a aproximadamente 35-40 SFr. para el menú. Excelente ubicación en una isla fluvial entre los dos puentes, hermosos alrededores. Típico Ticino Bravo 😋😃🇨🇭 (Original) Sehr gutes Essen und sehr freundlicher Service.👍 Die Preise bewegen sich im oberen Segment bei ca. 35-40 SFr. fürs Menü. Tolle Lage auf einer Flussinsel zwischen den zwei Brücken, wunderschöne Umgebung. Typisch Ticino Bravo 😋😃🇨🇭
Jörg Keusch . 2019-06-16
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Empfehlenswerter Geheimtipp, etwas versteckt auf einer Insel im Fluss liegt das Grotto. Idealer zwischenhalt auf dem Weg ins Tessin.
Scharten_paul . 2019-06-15
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Ce grotto nous a été recommandé et le détour en vaut largement la peine.La tereasse avec la vue sur le torrent est incroyable.Le service est rapide et nous avons beaucoup apprécié le plat du jour pour un prix raisonnable (20.- CHF entrée et plat)
touyaaa . 2019-06-12
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Breve pausa pranzo.Già solo il sito ti porta in vacanza.Nel giardino sotto la topia sosta da dio.Lo scorrere dell'acqua del fiume Ticino a pochi metri situato fra i ponti Romanici e con vista sullo splendido campanile della stessa epoca.Servizio cortese e celere.Un piatto di pasta semplice.Da visitare.
HansB2754 . 2019-06-08
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(Traducido por Google) Honestamente, nunca he estado allí, pero mi vecino trabaja allí y lo elogia con tonos agudos ... dime si realmente es tan bueno y si una buena mujer me acompañaría, para poder contarte todo al respecto, así que La gruta se entiende a sí misma :-) (Original) Ehrlich gesagt war ich noch nie dort , doch meine Nachbarin arbeitet dort und lobt es mit hohen tönen ... sagt mir bescheid ob es wirklich so gut ist und wenn mich eine nette Frau begleiten würde , so könnte ich Euch allen mehr davon erzählen , also vom Grotto versteht sich :-)
Claudio Gerber . 2019-06-04
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41 Stellungnahmen
Grotto bellissimo situato a bordo del fiume Ticino con spiaggetta e possibilità di fare il bagno. Cucina e servizio molto buoni, posto perfetto per passare una giornata in tranquillità e per gustare i prodotti Ticinesi.Proprietari molto gentili.
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From the location, through the delicious dishes to the courtesy of the staff and manager, the Rodai grotto is definitely to be recommended!
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We were passing through and stopped here to have some dinner. There was no menu and the food was presented to us without a price being mentioned. The food was okay, but not really anything special. In the end we paid 180 Swiss francs (for 3 people). Even the water cost 17 francs (and it wasn't even very tasty). Wouldn't recommend eating here unless you feel like paying a lot.