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Basierend auf 654 Bewertungen gefunden auf 2 Websites
Nº 195 unter 569 unter Winterthur
Nº 1 von 4 Autres cuisines unter Winterthur
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Clean friendly very nice. Always happy to be comfortable every time.
Ferrari Stefano . 2024-03-15
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Friendly staff good beer. Also good non-alcoholic cocktails. 1 star deduction for the bare concrete pillars, otherwise everything was tip top
Stutz Pascal . 2024-03-14
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As I entered the cozy atmosphere of this company, I was immediately seduced by a whiff of chocolate cake wafting in the air. The chocolate cake is definitely recommended - moist, rich and simply delicious. The ambience is beautifully designed and invites you to linger. The service is truly first class - attentive, friendly and professional. The selection of drinks is also very impressive and completely suited my taste. Overall a great experience - I highly recommend this company!
KinoiZ . 2024-02-27
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Great ambience. Nice modern location with good drinks. Pleasant!
Yannik Keller . 2024-01-14
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Very tasty mocktail. Price is absolutely right for what you get. The nachos were also delicious, as was the guacamole. Per se it is a bit noisy in Plan B, but otherwise comfortable.
Karin Br . 2023-12-08
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Nice location but service is usually slow.
Roger Bosshard . 2023-11-17
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Hello everyone We were with you today. The food and the restaurant are great😊🥳💃🏾. Unfortunately the service was terribly bad🤔😤. I've been working in the catering industry for 20 years and something like that just doesn't work🤬!!! At the beginning no hello, nothing cleared, no interest in serving... It's a shame😥
Livia Lüthi . 2023-11-02
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Very nicely decorated and the team was very nice. Always my pleasure:)
Byulla Autumn . 2023-10-18
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was here today with the Brabera… terrible service! Wanted us to pay first before the meal. No ashtrays, anti-smoking. Best regards
Novalie Busch . 2023-10-16
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very fine drinks 🍹 and top service 👌
Nicolas Stuby . 2023-09-29
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Great place to unwind after work
Sotiris Topaloglou . 2023-09-10
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Had a CAPRESS 2.0 yesterday Burrata, taggiascha olives, date tomatoes, basil, olive oil, seeds. A delight for the eyes and the palate.
Eleonora Piro . 2023-08-22
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Everything was great and the staff was very friendly.
Corinne Eberhart . 2023-08-18
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They didn’t want to sell us drink on 1:31 cause they are closing already.( Even the closing time was at 2:00.
Miroslava Kebová . 2023-08-06
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Fine food, fine wines and drinks. Great tip for an extended aperitif. Service staff are also very nice, courteous and service-oriented. Price-performance ratio is also right. Plan B is really recommended.
He Ma . 2023-07-26
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The best lounge in the Winterthur area. Very good food and drinks. Good music and a cozy atmosphere that invites you to linger for long and pleasant evenings. My drink tip: Ganzosa blueberry
Thomas Rüedi . 2023-07-13
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Everything ok, nothing to complain about it👍
DMX007 . 2023-07-09
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Great atmosphere. Cheers to the team, you're doing great... Muchos besitos!
Lo Go . 2023-07-07
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Pleasant bar to linger and enjoy, music isn't too loud, so you can have a good chat. There is a wide range of drinks, I don't know about food. All in all a visit worth it 😀👍
Hakan . 2023-05-30
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The place is the best backup plan ever.
James Kerschhagel . 2023-05-17
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fits. It's a shame that the Chocorumba was taken off the menu.
Flo B. . 2023-05-16
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Inventive and appealing drinks and a very nice atmosphere. Good meeting options and friendly service.
laarissa a . 2023-05-14
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Very nice and friendly location
Paul Winston (Black Labels) . 2023-05-11
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Very good, but a little more expensive.
Raul Weidling . 2023-04-20
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Very nicely decorated bar. Top location. Friendly service. Always a fine lunch menu. Timeless, simply cool!
Thomas Brupbacher . 2023-04-08
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The music is a bit too loud, but that's the only thing I can complain about, everything else is GREAT!
Marco . 2023-03-07
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Elegant, welcoming, calm and gorgeous
Jeffrey La Rosa . 2023-02-22
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We called to make a reservation for 2 people. to do. We were told on the phone that this was not necessary as there should be no problem with space for two people. When we arrived all tables were reserved. We only got a table for 1.5 hours until it was occupied. Food and drinks were great, but rather expensive. Great atmosphere in the bar with an industrial look.
Aline Baumberger . 2023-01-22
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Best place in Winterthur The best mini burger And a very good staff
Yoshi Yt . 2023-01-14
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Very stylish ambience, good service, excellent drinks, high-quality food.
Diego Ierimonti . 2023-01-10
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Cool bar in Winterthur that I like to visit when I'm in Winterthur. Super nice decor, food and drinks :-) The staff is also very friendly and competent.
Sandro Eger . 2023-01-06
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Good service and very nice atmosphere!
Philip Stebler . 2022-09-29
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We had nice service and a great aperitif. Their wheat beer was also very tasty.
Herbi Williams . 2022-08-30
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Pleasant service. Good drinks, very good cocktails, varied menu
S H . 2022-06-29
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Good location, nice decor and great drinks and snacks!
D . 2022-05-27
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Great drinks, tasty snacks, delicious lunch menus, exuberant atmosphere. Service is always friendly, competent and humorous. All in all: a dream.
Salome Weber . 2022-05-22
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Nice location for an aperitif. Good beers, nice wines and an aeroplate. With indoor and outdoor areas. With a lot of guests, the staff sometimes gets to their limit and forgets orders.
Peider Mani . 2022-05-12
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Recommended... Minimalist and timeless. Whether for lunch, an afterword aperitif or burgers in the evening... I'll be happy to come by again.
Cristian Preuss . 2022-05-02
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Excellent selection of drinks and great service
X Y . 2022-04-23
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Cozy bar for a nice after-work drink. Ideally located near the train station. Will definitely come back.
Thomas Hofer . 2022-04-13
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Great location, nice design. The drinks and Stefan's style made the evening an unforgettable evening for me and my colleague. Big compliment to him from another bartender 😁 5/5
Leon Muji . 2022-04-05
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We held a business aperitif here and everything was as we imagined. A very cozy lounge with lots of opportunities to relax. The entire staff is very friendly and attentive - in short, you feel very comfortable in Plan B. The range of drinks and food is excellent and there is something for everyone! The mini burgers are highly recommended. Plan B? Always my pleasure! Lg Salva
Salvatore . 2022-03-28
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Nice atmosphere, good selection, friendly staff and well located. I can recommend 😊
Andreas Bittel . 2022-03-15
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Cozy, friendly staff, great location, Outdoor area in summer, clean, modern furnishings in industrial style 😁👌
Kimberly H. . 2022-03-06
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The lounge is super comfortable. Unfortunately, there's always a lot going on in Plan B and it's just a matter of luck whether something is free. To be on the safe side, it's better to make a reservation. Unfortunately, the service is very impersonal and you are quickly dismissed. During my last visit, the waitress had to ask me 3 times which wine I ordered... It's not like they only have 3 red wines... In addition, I would have liked to have had a glass of water with it, but that's supposedly possible not as they only serve bottled water. So the last visit was very disappointing.
Alessandra Arpagaus . 2022-02-21
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To go place for beer. nice and friendly staffs menu is limited. good for after work hangout bar. 🤗🤗🤗🤗😍 good size space, deco is cool, lovely atmosphere.
Bas CH . 2022-02-16
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Cool bar for an after-work drink with friends, really recommended 🤩
Elvira Rykart . 2022-01-27
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Nice service and shots on the house 👌
Dario Faranda . 2022-01-11
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Friendly service and pleasant atmosphere. Fine quiches are on offer.
Albert H. Wegmann . 2021-10-10
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Good drinks with friendly and fast service.
Anastasia Koch . 2021-09-23
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Super nice staff, facility also very cool but unfortunately I could only give it 3 out of 5 stars because there is no hot chocolate after 7 p.m. 🙅♀️
Svenja Kesselbacher . 2021-09-20
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Very tasty cocktails and friendly and courteous service.
Pascal “Passi” H. . 2021-08-11
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Good atmosphere, nice place, very attentive and friendly waiters. We just need to put a little more food on the menu.
Illian Morales . 2021-07-17
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Didn't know that you could reserve tables outside and was therefore difficult to get something outside. Otherwise the food and drinks were good as always. Nice new employee (since we were last there last year), mixed us a shot that definitely belongs on the menu, was really really good 👍🏼keep it up
MC M . 2021-06-28
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Friendly staff and good snacks. Cozy atmosphere. I would happily recommend it
Patrik Jäger . 2020-12-28
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Ist in Ordnung und ganz gemütlich. Personal war nett.
J M . 2020-12-24
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The Plan B impresses with its extremely modern furnishings, the sofas and large lounge are unbeatable in Winterthur, you can tell from the waitresses that they mainly recruit students etc., often clumsy but very nice, hence the 4 stars, it simply radiates its own charm
Alain . 2020-12-10
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Ich war heute auf ein Getränk mit Freunden im Plan B. Nach einem langen Tag in der Bibliothek wollten wir uns gegenseitig ablenken, da das Plan B in der Nähe ist fiel unsere Wahl auf das Plan B (für mich das erste Mal). Die Ausstattung fand ich überraschenderweise sehr einladend. Die Servicedame war schon ein bisschen genervt, weil wir nur etwas trinken wollten, doch ich dachte mir nicht viel dazu. Die Getränke kamen auch sehr schnell. Doch in den ersten 20 Minuten kam die Sevicekraft ungelogen 4 auf uns zu und fragte uns ob wir noch etwas wollen. Geht's noch? 4 mal in 20 Minuten. ABSCHALTEN WAR KEIN THEMA MEHR.
Selman Onur . 2020-11-24
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Drink karte gseht viel versprechend us aber de long island lohnt sich hert nöd, d alkohol fehled eifach..
Michael Wyss (snackthatginger) . 2020-11-12
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(Traducido por Google) Cama pero ruidoso (Original) Bett aber laut
Monika Sidler . 2020-10-12
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(Traducido por Google) Gran servicio La comida es deliciosa Las bebidas son geniales Muy buen bar con un ambiente relajado. (Original) Super Bedienung Essen ist mega lecker Drinks sind super Sehr schöne Bar mit entspannter Atmosphäre
Denise Frei . 2020-10-04
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(Traducido por Google) Antes, cuando los bocadillos de medianoche todavía estaban allí, era mucho mejor, reanude (Original) Früher, als es die Mitternachtssnacks noch gab, war es viel besser, bitte wieder aufnehmen
Ladina Hertach . 2020-09-26
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(Traducido por Google) Buen ambiente, personal amable y variedad de bebidas y deliciosos bocadillos. (Original) Gute Atmosphäre, freundliches Personal und vielfältige Drinks sowie gluschtige Snacks.
Mauro Chiasserini . 2020-09-13
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(Traducido por Google) Ambiente muy acogedor (Original) Sehr gemütliches Ambiente
Felix Schiewe . 2020-09-12
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(Traducido por Google) Muy buen pastel de chocolate, pero desafortunadamente no hay chocolate caliente después de las 10 pm. Por lo tanto, solo 3 de 5 estrellas. (Original) Sehr guetr schokoladekuchen, aber leider keine heisse schokolade nach 22:00 uhr. Deshalb nur 3 von 5 sterne.
Leya Nora Imhof . 2020-09-01
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(Traducido por Google) Ambiente acogedor y agradable, personal agradable. Desafortunadamente, no hay más chocolate caliente después de las 10 p.m., por lo que solo 4 de 5 estrellas. (Original) Gemütlich, cooles Ambiente, nettes Personal. Leider gibt es ab 22.00 Uhr keine heisse Schokolade mehr, deshalb nur 4 von 5 Sternen.
Zärah . 2020-08-31
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(Traducido por Google) Partido en casa. Siempre. Gracias. (Original) Heimspiel. Für immer. Danke euch.
Jürgen Winandi . 2020-08-07
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(Traducido por Google) El nombre habla por sí solo, realmente era nuestro Plan B al que ir, ya que todos los demás lugares estaban llenos. La comida estaba bien, solo puedes conseguir algunos aperitivos calientes, que no requieren mucho tiempo para cocinar. La calidad de las bebidas es cuestionable para mí, ya que ninguna de mis bebidas sabía bien y las bebidas estaban muy diluidas. Además de todo, los camareros estropearon los cálculos mientras recibían el pago (dividimos la cuenta) y nos cobraron 10 CHF adicionales. No volvería a ir allí. (Original) The name talks for itself, it was really our Plan B to go to, since all the other places around were full. The food was ok, you can only get some little warmed up snacks, which don’t require much time for cooking. The quality of the drinks is questionable for me, since none of my drinks tasted good as well as the drinks were very diluted. On the top of everything the waiters messed up the calculations while taking the payment (we split the bill) and charged us extra 10 CHF. I wouldn’t go there again.
Kate Slyshkina . 2020-08-03
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(Traducido por Google) Muebles frescos, personal excelente y experto que prepara cócteles que no están en el menú a pedido. Estación de trenes cercana (Original) cool furniture, great knowledgeable staff that prepare cocktails that are not on the menu on demand. Trainstation nearby
Ennio Curcio . 2020-07-24
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(Traducido por Google) Super ubicación ... buen ambiente y buen servicio (Original) Super lage... schöne ambiente und gute service
Slavisa Rakic . 2020-07-20
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(Traducido por Google) Buen servicio (Original) Guter Service
Karl Josef Schneider . 2020-07-08
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(Traducido por Google) Ambiente acogedor, personal agradable. Bonito salón al aire libre en verano. Sin embargo, a partir de las 22.00 ya no hay chocolate caliente, por lo tanto, solo 4 de 5 estrellas (Original) Gemütliche Atmosphäre, angenehmes Personal. Im Sommer schöne Aussenlounge. Jedoch gibt es ab 22.00 keine heisse Schokolade mehr, deshalb nur 4 von 5 Sternen
Simon Ruckstuhl . 2020-06-30
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(Traducido por Google) Un buen lugar para recostarse y relajarse. Ambiente muy cómodo y excelentes bebidas y comida. (Original) Nice place to lean back and chill. Very comfy atmosphere and excellent drinks and food.
Trollocon Gaming . 2020-06-26
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(Traducido por Google) Simplemente increíble aquí! (Original) Einfach genial hier!
Daria Hauser . 2020-06-25
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Bin früher gerne und viel im Plan B gewesen, sowohl mit als auch ohne Hund. Hund war stets willkommen - war nie ein Thema. Die ehemaligen Geschäftsführer haben ein super Konzept gehabt & mich stets begeistert.Seit dem Wechsel leider immer wieder unfreundliche Bedienung. Zudem: Wollte heute telefonisch einen Randplatz reservieren, mit dem Hinweis, dass wir einen Hund dabei hätten. Die Antwort: Es herrsche Hundeverbot im Innern und draussen sei (trotz tollem Wetter!) geschlossen, weshalb wir nicht willkommen seien! Schade! Wir werden somit (auch ohne Hund) nicht mehr kommen.
SaraM7777 . 2020-06-16
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(Traducido por Google) Buena selección de cócteles y el personal intentará hacer tu favorito incluso si no está en el menú (Original) Nice cocktail selection and the staff will try to make your favorite even if it's not on the menu
Aubrey Dobler . 2020-03-10
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(Traducido por Google) Come bien, gracias. (Original) Gut essen, danke.
Agnieszka Tobera . 2020-03-10
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(Traducido por Google) Buen servicio, ambiente agradable, buenas bebidas. (Original) Nette Bedienung, angenehme Atmosphäre, gute Drinks
Falk Richter . 2020-03-10
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(Traducido por Google) cócteles geniales y una gran selección de ginebras (Original) coole Cocktails und tolle Gin auswahl
Artan Morcic . 2020-03-09
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(Traducido por Google) El bar más cómodo de todos. (Original) Comfiest bar ever.
Jan Massey . 2020-03-06
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(Traducido por Google) Excelentes bebidas (Original) Toll Trinks
ein Kugelblitz . 2020-02-21
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(Traducido por Google) Servicio muy amable, buen ambiente (Original) Sehr freundliche Bedienung, gute Atmosphäre
Pascal Megert . 2020-02-20
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(Traducido por Google) Siempre agradable Buena decoración buenas bebidas ... ¿qué más se puede pedir ... (Original) Immer wieder schön. Schöne einrichtung gute drinks... Was will man mehr..
Öztürk Kerim . 2020-02-17
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(Traducido por Google) Buena comida y buen servicio! Alin es el mejor en servicio. (Original) Super Essen und super Service! Alin ist die beste im Service.
Maja Debora . 2020-02-03
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(Traducido por Google) Un lugar perfecto para chiĺl y tomar una copa. (Original) A perfect place to chiĺl and have a drink.
Martin L . 2020-01-28
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Luana, definitiv die MVP! Moderate Preise. Gute lage Diese Bar ist ein Ort, an dem sich alle Leute treffen und eine tolle Zeit haben können!
sarahmarques24 . 2020-01-23
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(Traducido por Google) super salón excelentes bebidas (Original) super lounge klasse drinks
nick wiestner . 2020-01-21
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(Traducido por Google) Buenas bebidas, buenos aperitivos, servicio amable. (Original) Gute Drinks, Gute Snacks, Freundliche Bedienung.
Linda Lüscher . 2020-01-08
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(Traducido por Google) Ambiente muy agradable, iluminación acogedora, precios justos :) (Original) Sehr angenehme atmosphäre, gemütliche beleuchtung, faire preise :)
Luca Mannoni . 2019-12-28
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(Traducido por Google) Ambiente acogedor, buenas bebidas y servicio amable. (Original) Gemütliches Ambiente, gute Drinks und freundliche Bedienung.
Neon . 2019-12-28
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(Traducido por Google) Bar / salón muy acogedor y moderno. Amplia gama de bebidas y cerveza! Aperitivos y comidas también están disponibles. ¡Bar perfecto para terminar la noche o hablar con amigos! Muy recomendable! (Original) Sehr gemütliche und Moderne Bar/Lounge. Breites Angebot an Getränken und Bier! Snacks und Verpflegung ist auch vorhanden. Perfekte Bar um den Abend ausklingen zu lassen oder gwmütlich was zu besprechen mit Freunden! Sehr empfehlenswert!
luca vieli . 2019-12-21
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(Traducido por Google) El salón es muy cómodo y una excelente alternativa al taburete de bar. (Original) Die Lounge ist sehr bequem und eine tolle Alternative zum Barhocker
Dave Poly . 2019-11-27
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(Traducido por Google) Mucha gente, gente amable, buena música. (Original) Viel Volk, freundliche Menschen, gute Musik
Susanne Busch . 2019-11-20
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(Traducido por Google) Acogedor para relajarse! Buena ginebra 😉 (Original) Gemütlich zum chillen! Guter Gin 😉
Milot Morina . 2019-11-09
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(Traducido por Google) Cool bar, personal amable. Finos antipasti, delicioso vino 😊 (Original) Coole Bar, freundliches Personal. Feine Antipasti, leckerer Wein 😊
J. E . 2019-11-03
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(Traducido por Google) Moderno urbano (Original) Urban modern
Susanne Rudin . 2019-10-27
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(Traducido por Google) muy recomendable (Original) sehr empfehlenswert
L. Tozzi . 2019-10-25
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(Traducido por Google) Tiene un gran ambiente y es muy céntrico, lo cual es agradable. El personal también es muy bueno. (Original) It has a great atmosphere and is very central, which is nice. The staff is also really good.
Shane Quentin . 2019-10-15
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(Traducido por Google) Acogedor bar en Winti, servicio atento. Las mini hamburguesas estaban deliciosas y el servicio rápido. Feliz de nuevo. Creo que la comunicación puede ser un poco más difícil cuando la casa está llena. Nuestro lugar en la ventana ideal. Con la compañía adecuada, fue una noche muy agradable. Feliz de nuevo (Original) Gemütliche Bar in Winti, aufmerksame Bedienung. Die Mini-Burger waren lecker und der Service schnell. Gerne wieder. Ich denke die Verständigung kann bei vollem Haus etwas schwieriger werden. Unser Platz am Fenster ideal. Mit der richtigen Begleitung wars ein sehr schöner Abend. Gerne wieder
Martin Baumgartner . 2019-09-25
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Wir essen oft im plan b zu Mittag. Sie bieten ein abwechslungsreiches Mittagsmenü an. Das Essen ist immer sehr lecker und hausgemacht. Der Service ist sehr freundlich und speditiv. Aufgrund ihrer Lage im Sulzerareal ist die Bar auch ein guter Ort, um schnell einen Kaffee zu trinken.
marcheline1111 . 2019-09-19
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This morning I was in the Cafébar Lokal at Unteren Graben in Winterthur. I had a lunchtime appointment and wanted to grab a quick bite to eat beforehand. Since the weather was nice, I couldn't find a table outside. I was the only guest inside. The waitress who was heading in my direction was approached and stopped by her colleague with red hair. Another lady came to my table after a while but didn't take any order. Something messed up the system, if one existed. The lady who wanted to come to my table first ended up coming. The drink came immediately, the focaccia with grilled vegetables we ordered came a little later. Had it been served earlier it would have had a chance of being perfect. The grilled vegetables were very tasty, but in a focaccia that was almost toasted like rusks... Even though it was far from perfect, I still liked it somewhat because I like crust. The espresso at the end tasted good, just as it should taste in a café bar. I don't understand why coffee cream was served without being ordered. The whole thing cost less than CHF 20, which would have been absolutely appropriate if the focaccia had been allowed to remain focaccia. For me, the café bar is not everyday life, but in terms of food it can be dispensed with for all other days.